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CITY CHATTER

Vol. L No. 12

'The Voice of 'Ihorn t.on Employees'

!1av 18. 1973

FR~E EMPLOYEE SWIMMING PASS

JULY 15TH .• IF IT DOESN'T SNOW

Last year, City employees
received
a free puss for themselves and members
cf their fazu.Lf es to the Thornton Pool.
Since response was overwhelmingly favorable, the same offer is open again this
year. Just see S8ndy Christensen to obtain your free pass.
The pool will be
opening this year, over the Memorial
Day weekend, and will close in
early

Bob Donaldson is heading a committee
compri~ed of Sherry Meier, JiCT Randall,
Elaine Stockton, Karm Sunday, Ralph Bender and Dick Ger~itz, in planning
an
Employee Picnic for Sunday, July 15th,
so mark your calendar.
Several details remain to be worked
out and further· information will
be
given each employee soon.
This ~.;rill be
a family affair, planned to provide activities for both adults and children,
scheduled to allow maximum participation
by all employees, including those on
shift schedules.
Anyone wishing to forward suggesticns
on any phase of this outi::1g, may do·so
by contacting Eob Donaldson (Ext. 54),
who will relay the information to the
appropriate con~ittee member.
B. Donaldson
Committee Chainaau

Sep t embe r ,

Bob Wilson
.Ass1t. City Manager
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PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF THIS
June 14th is Flag Day.
forget to fly your flag.

Please-don't

B. Lane
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A PLUS YEAR
During 1973, the Utilities Department is celebrating 2 anniversaries:
(1) The
Utilities systems serving Thornton are 20 years old, and (2) Thornton purchased the
Utilities systems 10 years ago.
A major milestone in the de~elopment of the Utility De?artment was the approval
by the Utilities Board and City Council of a 20 year Master Utilities Plan. Phase I
of the Master Plan is new being iro?lemented.
Projects in Phase I include:
(1) Ten million dollar bond issue approved by the Utilities Board and City
Council in February.
(2) 5 MGD Thornton T:reatment Plant expansion, 95% complete.
(3) Enlarge Croke Reservoir and addition to pump station, 95% complete.
(l~) 3 and 4 MG Storage tanks. 3 HG tank almost complete, construction
under way on 4 MG tank.
(5) Bids to be opened on May 18th and construction to start by June 1st on
new 20 MG Treatment P'l an t; at 86th Avenue and Colorado Boulevard.
(6) Design work on Carlson Reservoir has been authorized.
(7) Design work on new 5 MG storage reservoir at 136th Avenue and Colorado
Boulevard has been authorized .
Jerry Groothuis
.Assistant Utilities Director

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�LUNCHROOM FOLLIES
11

Grec:?sy Spoon" Award
goes to Don Krugmire whose lunch hour is
det2r:nined by a tempermental computer,
rather than the clock.
E. Donaldson
This

month's

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SPECIAL NEWS
Did you happen to notice that EXTRA
S?~CIAL GLEAM on :3e7erly Lane's face
lasL Friday; and for good reason!!! She
learned her parents would be visiting
from sunny Florida, in September.
B. Donaldson
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SPECIAL REUNION
A =amily reunion was held in Thornton
Easter Sunday for the Hirschler family.
Freda Davis took a day of vacation from
the Utility Dept. to prepare the turkey
dinner and help with the final preparations.
This WuS the first time in seven
yeers the eight children had been togethe~ and of 105 decendents, 92 were at
the reunion.
Those a:::t2nding were Mr. &amp; Mrs. Ralph
Hirschler, Mr. &amp; Mrs. Pr ar-k li)~J..L:n:'c'., all
of Laria r ; l-ir. &amp; Mrs. L. A. W-=5.sdorfer of
Eads; Nr. and Mrs. Harlan Davis, aenderson; Hr. ar..d Mrs. Jir:i Kortan, Thornton;
11r. and Mrs. Elvis Hirschler,
Colorado
Springs; Mr. and Mrs. Raymond Shankle,
Cody, Wyoming; I'1r. &amp; Mrs. Elvin Hirschler, San Bernadina, Caiifornia.

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FOR SALE
NEf,RLY-NEW GIRL'S 10-SPEED
ONLY $60.00
CONTACT LINDA WOLLERT-UTILITIES DEPT.

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FOR SALE
20 inch Sears Craftsman Lawnmower---$20.00. See Don Krugmire, Data Porcessing.
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REFLECTIONS

In the past 11 issues of the Enploy€e
Paper we printed some things we Hould
like t o remember and some W8 vrould like
to forget.
Issue No. 1 Ju~e 30. 1972
Name the paper contest
Jim Wellman turned up with 'c~ick'
holes in the City _parking lot
Issue Ho. 2 July 28 J_9_7_2
_
Paper was named by Bill Knobeloch
Jerry Groothuis found a "Thing"
Joel Sidell was on crt:tches
Men's Softb~ll Team had 1st win
Issue No. 3 Au~u_s_t_._
2_5~,_1_9_7_2
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Wage Survey Cof:JI!litt2e appointed
Jim Wellman now had "chuck.' holes
Issue No. 4 September 22, 1972
Dedicated to Thornton Fireoen
Frooosed Salarv __ Re so Iu t Lon accep t ed
by Counc Ll,
Fire Department history
Sidell on crutches--again
List of all City ~loye~_s
_
_Issue No. 5 October 2_0_,.,_
._ 1_9_7_2
_
41+9 people registered to vote in cne
afternoon
Parking lot w3s paved
List of all Boards and Board Members
of the City and a brief summary of the
func t Lons of each Boar..:.:d
_
IsGue No. 6 Nove~~~r 17, 1972
Start of Bits and Pieces
Election was over
All Doris could find was auditors
Is~ue No. 7 December 15, 1972
Wis~es for all departracnts
__'_F_ire Dept. Hires Their Equip~ent'
Issue No. 8 January 29, 1973
New Promotions in City
Lots of hali1av-'v~a~c~a~t~1~·o~n=
s
_
Iss~e No. 9 February 23, 1973
_
Branch Utility Office opened
New Fire Station st~rted
History of Utilities
Issue No. 10 March 23, 1973
Congratulations to Jim Smith, 1st
Employee of the Month - Given Dec. 1972
Mr. Wilsoa was wearing cast
I~s?e No, 11 Auril 20, 197_3
_
Paeer dated May 20th
There were many errors in the paper
in our first year, but it has been a lot
of fun and I think we are getting better
B. Lane

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�BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH - TERRY COLE

Adndni.strative Assistant to the City Manager, is another transwho has eventually found his way to our City.
Born in Alameda, California, in 1945, Terry graduated from high school in the
Oakland area in 1962.
While in high school, Terry swam cornpetitively for both his
school and local swim clubs, piling up a number of national records in 1962 &lt;mi!
1963 in his class. He was good enough, in fact, to obtain a swimming srh0lnrship to
Denver University, which he attended until his graduation in 1966 with a degree in
Political Science.
Upon graduation from Denver University, Terry enlisted in the Army and
eventually was assigned to the Intelligence Branch as a Photo Interpreter. Prior to
being shipped to Vietnam for ten months of service, he married his high school
sweetheart, Trish, in September of 1967.
After serving his time in Vietnam, Terry
returned to Colorado and completed his tour of duty at Fort Carson.
Upon his release from active duty, he resumed his education at Denver University in September of 1969, and obtained his Master's Degree in Public Administration
in March of 1971.
Prior to coming to the City in July of 1971, Terry worked as an
A~minisLrntive Intern at the Celebrity Sports Center.
An avid sports fan, Terry is
always the first to volunteer for whatever recreational activity the City engages
in.
If he is not playing basketball, swimming, on the tennis courts, or the softball field, you will likely find him backpacking, skiing, sailing, or camping.
Terry and Trish own a home in Arvada, and are expecting their first baby "boy"
in late July.
Bob Wilson
Assistant City Manager
Tc'-'-Y

Cole,

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FOR Si\LE
1 Mower with catcher
1 Kenmore washer, wringer type
1 Double bed
Contact Terry, 'The Meter Reader' or
call 427-2807.
Will deal or take reasonable offer.

MEN'S SOFTBbLL
men '.s softball t eam will play
TONIGHT (Friday the 18th) at 6:00 P.M.
at York Jr. High School. All interested
players and spectators are invited to
attend.
Bob Donaldson, Coach

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY
Don1t forget to wish the following nice people 'Happy Birthday.
Dale McMaster-----Treatment Plant------June
Ron Rotello-------Police Dept.---------June
Bill Joues--------Fire Dept.-----------June
Greg Sheehan------Fi,:e Dept. -----------June
Ernie Hafner------Treatment Plant------June
Glen Donharl------Planning Dept.-------June
Beverly Lane------Utility Office-------June
Dick Gerbitz------Street Dept.---------June
Doug Scheffel-----Maint. Dept.---------June
Ken St. Onge------Fire Dept.-----------June
Elaine Stockton---City Bookkeeper------June
Jeff TerAvest-----Maint. Dept.---------June

1

1st
4th
8th
9th
11th
11th
14th
22nd
24th
25th
28th
29th

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�43 TO 13 "WIN" RULED A TIE
A -,~~ge, enthusiastic crowd roared its approval, as Tern Nolte opened the First Annual
Men's-Women's Softball Game on May 5th, with a first pitch pop fly to Karn Sunday at
second base. But from that moment on, the men had things their own way, though visibly concerned over the potential power of the Wom~n's team.

This was evidenced by the numerous errors by the men (one play alone accounted for 6
errors) while the girls kept chewing away at their lead. Then, with two out and two
women on base, in the last inning of the scheduled seven inning contest, the OFFICIAL
SCOREKEEPER, Max Nicholls, announced that the score was tied. The men turned white;
the women screamed with delight; spectators cheered and the teams' dual manager, Bob
Donaldson, nearly fainted. The third and final out was made by Bob Martin, who held
onto the ball like his life depended on it.
-Not to be satisfied with a "tie,n the two teams chose "mixed sides" and continued to
play until the rain clouds forced an ending. No one really knows what the final score
was, for after the seventh inning, no one kept score. However, rumor has i.t the men
were leading 43 to 13.
Our thanks must go to Mayor Tom Carrillo for providing liquid refreshment to all; to
Don Krugmire and an anonymous donor, for providing "bases" (when ours were stolen the
night before the game) and to all those who supported us with their attendance, which
all made this event successful. We were all disappointed that City Manager,
James
Castrodale's, minor injury prevented his appearance at the opening ceremony, but we
look forward to having him with us during the coming season. Our thanks too, to Mr.
J.M. Crowfoot, Principal at York Junior High School, for granting pernission to use
the facilities at York Junior High School, Parks and Recreation Director, Ralph Bender, for his assistance and to Chief Matlock for lending the loudspeaker.
B. Donaldson
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SOFTBALL GAME HIGHLIGHTS
Base umpire, Bill· Knobeloch's, call
against Jerry Groothuis' "illegal" slide
into second bnse,
was a work of art;
"You are out---SIR!11
Jim Ma r t i nez declined to pitch
for
the men when he leaned his wife,
Kathy
Aartinez, was the opposing pitcher.
Penny Conlin could easily have set a
new outdoor track record, chasing down
fly balls in center field.
Terry Cole looked as if he was trying
to put a softball in earth orbit with his
unique 11up swing" batting.
Fred Davidson nearly ran over
Mitch
Cordover (who was running the bases a.ie ad of him).
We' re not sure if Fred is
that fast a runner or if Mitch lost his
steam between second and third.
Wayne Volkman and Roger Whaling were
C?nsidering taking shifts sleeping
in
the outfield, until Ann Weber dropped a
"Texas leaguer" between them.
Right Field Umpire, Sherry Meier made
her one and only call by telling
Terry
Cole he was out for leading off base(not

allowed) and the rest of the game waiting
for right field hits, which never came.
Cel Sc~enfeld was so busy at · . first
base in the first two innings, she. wished t~ere were traffic lights
installed,
to keep from getting run over.
Chuck Alver nearly screwed himself into the ground swinging at an outside ball.
Lucille Miller played an outstand~ng
game, nearly missing a double-play in the
sixth inning.
Linda Wollert didn't give an inch
at
home plate to the runners charging
in
from third base. It must have been that
determined look that made the raen
think
twice about challenging her on a
close
play in the fourth inning.
game
Starla Clark played the entire
bare-footed.
Judy Nye and Mary Kay HDyden both came
close to making spectacular running catches while looking into a bright sun.
The women's fielding star was·. Lynell
Winsett who saved many runs from scoring
with her difficult catches.

�THE PEANUT BUTTER SURVEY CONTINUES

NEW FIRE STATION

Reaction to last month's peanut butter survey was different than we had expected.
Comments were usually to the
effect that some combinations sounded
horrible but had I ever tried----!!!
Add the following ways to eat peanut
butter to last month's list.
Peanut butter on apples or celery
Peanut butter on sandwiches with;
sandwich spread and onions
dill pickles and onions
lettuce and mayonnaise
Peanut butter on sliced bananas, with
nuts on too £or dessert
Peanut butter soup
This just about wraps up the peanut
l,q U::er survey
except for the notation
that Bob Donaldson uses peanut butter
to play 'Goose the Moose'.
Ask Bob for
details.
B. Lane

Girl's 3 speed Schwinn Bike--$J5.0O
See Bill Knobeloch in Engineering or
call 287-8968.

The Fire Department hopes to move in
to the new fire station at 92nd &amp; Huron
Street before the end of May or shortly
thereafter.
It is really a . nice looking station
and should be an asset to the City in
location for quicker response on fire
and ambulance calls.
Personnel of the Dept. are already
doing some of the preliminary work necessary before moving over.
One pumper
one ambulance and one ·weed truck are
tentatively planned to be headquartered
at the new station.
Watch for further
word of completion and come see our new
station.
With the additional seven new firemen
for our new station, we again feel we
lucked out in getting men talented in
other fields besides fire fighting. Don
Oliver is quite an artist and you'll be
seeing some of his work in our local
business establishments when we conduct
a camp2ign to recruit Volunteer Firemen.
Don's posters are something else so
watch for them. We hope to utilize his
talents for this paper later.
C. Leiker

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FOR SALE

MINI-JvIEMOS ON SAFETY
Dry Brakes
Whet}., your brake. bands .get wet, .. s ome t Lme s t.hey will grab, and other times they
will slii to the point of being useless.
Either way, they are dangerous!! To.dry
them, or as the pros call it, 11Burning out your brakes," keep your right foot on the
throttle and press lightly with your left on the brakes.
The added friction will
get rid of the excess moisture.
Strangers
If you are following an out-of-state car in. city or suburban traffic, be extra
alert for sudden stops or changes of direction. The driver is most likely unfamilar
with the surroundings, may be looking for signs or an address, etc.
In any event,
give him plenty of room.
P"et Peeve
Have you ever noticed some cars· take a short cut at a corner to avoid a red
light by cutting through a gas station?
There is probably a special place in Hell
for these people---- but if they ever hit one of those gas pumps,
they'll have it
right here on earth.
Definition of a credit card:

A convenient way to spend money you wish you had.

D. King
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�WHAT YOU WONDERED?

A FAULTY CONNECTION?

H~ve you ever seen a stalled car on
che hi:;h.woy and noticed the red tag hargine ou the coor handle and wondered what
the tag 3Did?
Hank Robert was the possessor of such
a red tag when his 62 Volks gave out and
it is copied below for your information.

Two of the necessities for comfortable living were working together too
well, a Mountain Bell customer com~laiP-ed. She had measured telephone service,
and every time the toilet was flushed,
the telephone equipment charged her for
another call. Telephone repairmen found
that a grounding wire had been incorrect
ly attached to a water pipe.
The above story was passed on to us
by a Mountain Bell worker.

-----------------------Colorado State Patrol
Abandoned Vehicle Report
Date

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Lie. No.

Time

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Vic.

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Officer
of
the Colorado State Patrol has stopped
and ~ade a Courtesy Check, to see if you
needed assistance.
We urge R~moval of the Vehicle
as possible.

as soon

Should this Vehicle remain abandoned at
this Location 24 hours or more, we will
Tow in at your expense, and Storage will
begin as required under Colorado Revised
Statutes 1969 13-5-71 and 13-5-72 as
amended.

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BITS AND PIECES FROM THE FIRE DEPT.
Watch for our old pumper Unit 17 to
hit the streets looking like a new pumper, with the new diesel engine, automatic transmission and a new paint job. It
should be one of the finest looking fire
trucks in the area.
There are some very spirited opinions
as to who has the most hair left, 11Lt.
Leiker or Capt. Valasek.'· lit last count
Leiker had 34 and Valasek had 27.
The Fire Dept. is looking for volunteers and uould like to hear from any
ma Le employee of the City w~o thinks.
they would be interested.
C. Leiker

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"ASCET'1 ELECTS OFFICERS
On Thursday, May 10th, the newly formed Rocky Mountain Chapter of the American
3ociety of Certified Engineering Technicians (ASSET), held their election of
officers, at which Utility Inspector Bob Donaldson was elected National Director of
the local chapter.
He will represent the chapter in all national and regional
functions as well as local director.
ASCET is comprised of persons who have acquired certification by the Institute
of Certified Engineering Technicians (ICET), in their respective fields, which includes among others; Civil, Chemical, and Industrial Engineering.
Students and
other individuals who are engaged in studies or various engineering professions are
also accepted for membership.
ICET was established by the National Society of Professional Engineers in 1961,
to evaluate the qualifications of persons engaged in engineering technician capacities. To date, approximately 45,000 persons nation wide have been certified.
Anyone interested in learning more about ASCET should take time to talk to Bob,
he is pretty enthusiastic about this organization and rightfully so.

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BITS &amp; PIECES FROM THE POLICE DEPT.

BITS AND PIECES

Congratulations to Officer Jim Smith
once again.
Officer Smith was honored
"Law Man of the Year" and received a
plaque at the Law Day Breakfast May 1st.
Buttons poppin- Cheer, Cheer, Cheer-to the many officers who are devoting so
much of their own time to the ever growing drug problem in the community.
How about the excellent job done by
one and all during the recent flood? And
speaking of the flood, did you know that
Dispatcher Sherry Dysert made her radio
debut then?
Ann Weber will soon be taking a vacation and will be making a trip to Greece.
We've had no official confirmation however that she will be spending anytime
on the Onassis yacht.
That shade of
green that some of us are wearing (clash
ing with our uniforms) can be attributed
to envy!!!
D. Rankle

They are sodding the Baseball Field
by City Park and it is really going to
look great.
Elaine Stockton says that l!Happiness
is a sump pump' but Don Rohrbaugh says
that 'Happiness is a sump. pump that
works.'
Barbara Taylor left Wednesday for Las
Vegas and a little action at the tables.
Hope to hear that both she and her husband had a great time and are. a little
richer when they get back.
Ruth McCullah took a week's vacation
and drove with her son and family, and
youngest daughter, Jamie, to Minneota,
Minnesota.
This is where Ruth was born
and raised and we understand that she
had a good visit.
Attention: George Stanley This.issue
includes all winter news from the Street
Dept. that you turned in and we are hold
ing all summer news until next time.
Hope you don't mind.
The Men's Softball Team will play
'Tonight the 18th' at 6:00 P.M. at York
Jr. High School. All interested players
and spectators are invited to attend.
Hank Clark and crew had a small problem with a fire in one of the trucks
this week.
Since the burning of trash
is no longer permitted in the county, it
is a myotery as to how the fire started.
Ask Helen Powell how long you need to
boil water? 30 minutes? 3 hours?
Just about everyone in the City knows
what the day was like when people were
calling to ask about the water. All day
and all night the phones were ringing.
Encugh said.
Memo from Bill Knobeloch:
View from behind the pitchers mound.
'I couldn't do it alone, girls.'

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NICE TO HAVE YOU WITH US
The following employees will be certified June 1, 1973:
Robert Martin - Police Department
Robert Carmosino - Police Department
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FLOOD DUTY - ENGINEERING DEPT.
Bill Knobeloch and Bob Donaldson responded to the recent flood emergency
at mid-afternoon on Sunday, May
6th
and assisted in emergency operations
related to Thornton's Utility Systems
for several hours.
All major water and sewer mains,
in
endangered areas, were
repeatedly
checked, and a 2011 water main on-Washington Street was shut down when there
was a danger of it's breaking open after
being exposed in a washout.
Assistance was also provided to the
Street Department in locating street
failures.
Both Bill and Bob were
nearly
stranded on Frontage Road, along I-80,
between 72nd Avenue and 88th Averiue ,
while checking Well Fields, when bridges
along these routes became
impassable,
requiring a return to the City liraits
via I-25 .
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FIRST FLIGHT
When was the last time you heard about an 81 year
old grandmother n:aking
her first airplane trip?
Don Krugmire's mother, Edith, made
her first flight this past Tuesday, flying from her home in Tacoma, Washington
to Denver for a visit.
Mrs. Krugmire, we hope the trip was a
memorable experience and that you have a
beautiful visit here in Denver.
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ALONG OUR STREETS
The Street Department has been pretty bcsy this past winter.
We set a record
of the most sand and salt ever used by the City in one winter.
Even with more eLlployees, several of the storms were impossible to keep up
,d th. During one of the La s t snow storms, we ran into trouble.
Usually, we try to
keep the streets in as good a shape as possible under the bad conditions.
However,
~his one storm caught us by surprise.
After sanding all night, we ran out of sand!
So, during the morning rush hours, it w~s a little slick, and, believe n~, we heard
about it from employees and the public in general.
I don't think there is one person around who hasn't seen, or felt, the condition of our City streets.
We Street Department employees know how you feel because
Qe have to drive on them too.
Bad weather, and not being able to patch properly,
.:::r,~ two c aus es of the large chu ck-ho Les , bumps, humps, etc.
In the winter, when
the weat-her is cold, we cannot use the sc:me asphalt as we do in the summer.
When
th&lt;? ~.-,e,:ither is bad, we use tzhat;
is called "cold mix."
In the summex we use "hot
.n i.x
The difference is that if we used "ho t mix" in the winter, it wou Ld be as
hard zs a rock before we co~ld go from the plant back to the City.
Cold mix is
made so that it doesn't get hard in the truck.
Unfortunately, it doesn't get hard
whe:n we patch the holes, either!
Water also washes it out of the holes.
However,
we have to put something in them, right?
Loe.king at the brighter side, if the
weather stays nice, as it has been lately, we will be able to put permanent patches
in some of these holes, etc., in the streets th2t everyone's been cussing for the
past several months. Please bear with us.
I th.ink everybody know::., especially us,
that we have a big job in front of us.
The Street Department has put a lot of hours in on the recent flood .. This
:neant blocking the streets, cleaning storm drains, and trying to get streets open
that were closed by the flood.
All I can say is th~t I hope it will be a long,
lo~g time before we get another on~, aud I think everybody agrees!!!
Georg~ S~anley
Street Department
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MEMORIAL

WEEK-END!!!

DRIVE CAREFULLY! ! !

SE:S YOU BACK ON THE JOB THE 29TH!!!

THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE TO WORK, HAVE A GOOD DAY ANYWAY!!!

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